Thursday, July 30, 2009

Arcane Legions 3 - Reply to Store Review

OK, I got my demo kit and am getting the mini’s ready for running some games.

I can say first off no way these are 25 MM, more like 20MM. Scale is way off.

I deal alot with mini lines and I am still on the fence about this line. People who are into either GW or Privateer Press won’t even give these a second chance and that is coming from those I have already showed these to.

The game play MAY and that’s a big maybe make a difference but I am reserving judgment yet.

Going for ultra cheap may have bite you in the ass as your marketing a mass combat line to go up against GW and the like without the level of quality those lines of miniatures have to offer. These remind me of those cheap bags of army men we all bought as kids. Painting these won’t be easy either as this type of plastic doesn’t take well to paint. As I said, I am reserving judgment for now but kinda disappointed by what I see so far.

Fix the scale and go for better quality even with the price increase might be the better way to go.

To0m – Ye Olde Hobby Game Store

Mark’s Reply:

Hi Tom :)

I don’t understand why so many people have the impression these are not 25mm characters. I realize they may look small compared to what you are used to seeing, but a ruler settles the question every time. Measure them, they are all 25mm.

It is important to understand that Arcane Legions was not designed to compete with GW. Our goal is not to convert the existing miniature player or provide cheap figures for conversions, but to bring the casual hobby player into the miniatures realm by providing a product that is affordable, quick to play, has an easy rules system yet still has all the strategy and depth of play that other systems have. Arcane Legions is a great playing game, and we believe that these are the points that will resonate with our target audience.

Getting the common figures on the sprue and having to remove them does feel initially like the army men of old, but once they are all set up the feel changes significantly.

Why 25mm? It was one of the mechanisms by which we are able to reduce the cost to the consumer. If we were at 35mm there would either be fewer minis or a much higher price point.

25mm also makes a mass action game more manageable. Smaller figures means more models on a standard table – if we were at 35mm, the unit trays would have to be almost half again as big just to account for the figure size, and an army of 100 figures would be very difficult to fit on a table.

Give it a chance Tom and I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

When we demoed this game at Origins, almost without exception, everyone who played it praised it loudly – and these were pretty much all hardcore miniatures players – not actually our target audience.

Mark Chase

Wells Expeditions

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